Woot! Thanks Dan!<br><br>We need continue to nag everyone continuously until this wikipedia article is live. I know this is tedious work but it is that important. I don't want to have to nag because I'm the sort of person who believes in "doing the work". Unfortunately, I can't right now. But I will continue to nag. Development on LK commenced years ago yet "according to wikipedia" the project is not known.<br> <br>Lively <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Editor142/Lively">scratch page</a> on Wikipedia.<br><br>A few months ago, I tried uploading a screenshot of the examples page. Some wikipedia user yanked it due to potential copyright violation issues I think. The conditions of uploading images to wikipedia are a maze to me.<br> <br>Some tasks:<br><ul><li>find an existing wikipedia article of some other project that we might be able to use for comparison of formatting, table of contents, etc.<br></li><li>select an image to use for the sidebar in the article (Dan's engine, or screenshot of the examples page, or other...)<br> </li><li>upload the image to wikipedia legally without the editing community wigging out</li><li>review/enhance/decide the table of contents</li><li>continue to flesh out and add content to the article</li><li>near any hyperlinks to Lively pages in the article or at the end, make it clear which browsers work best or are supported for a good experience (Dan mentions unsupported browser below) </li> <li>Copy the article out to wikipedia from its current scratch page (feel free to do that at any time; just be ready the hammer to come down) ;-) Kidding.</li><li>Point to the article from other existing listing and category pages in wikipedia: JavaScript libraries, web frameworks, etc.</li> </ul>Please take a step: upload and include an image - correct or adds links at the bottom or inline - write a new section - push it out - etc.<br><br>Lively <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Editor142/Lively">scratch page</a> on Wikipedia.<br> <br>Thanks,<br>Philip<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 12:08 AM, Dan Ingalls <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:danhhingalls@gmail.com">danhhingalls@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div> <div>Philip Weaver <<a href="mailto:philmaker@gmail.com" target="_blank">philmaker@gmail.com</a>> wrote...<br> </div><div class="im"> <blockquote type="cite">Will you help create a wikipedia entry for Lively? I began a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Editor142/Lively" target="_blank">scratch page</a> months ago. I hestitated a bit writing this because the wikipedia editing community can come down like vultures - critiquing and tagging unfinished articles.<br> </blockquote> <blockquote type="cite">Will you help create a wikipedia entry for Lively?</blockquote> <div><br></div> </div><div>Yes, thanks so much for getting us started, Phil. I just fleshed out the introductory sections. It needs a simple picture, and a link to a stable but interesting sample page. We need to take some care that reasonable things will happen if viewed from an unsupported browser (*).</div> <div><br></div> <div>Maybe someone else could copy some of the references and a few example links.</div> <div><br></div> <div> - Dan</div> <div><br></div> <div>(*) hey, here's a use for cloud computing: If someone has an unsupported browser, they get redirected to a server in the cloud that renders LK and sends out a gif image of the screen. If the user clicks or drags on it, those events get passed back to the server which does the appropriate thing and sends out a new gif showing the updated screen region (note the canvas version has all this logic already). You get the idea... ;-)</div> </div> <br>_______________________________________________<br> lively-kernel mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:lively-kernel@hpi.uni-potsdam.de">lively-kernel@hpi.uni-potsdam.de</a><br> <a href="http://lists.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/listinfo/lively-kernel" target="_blank">http://lists.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/listinfo/lively-kernel</a><br> <br></blockquote></div><br>