I used the ExtJS framework (of Sencha) back in 2007 around the time Project Flair (now Lively) was announced. It is well designed but does not have the same vision as Lively: direct manipulation and vectors. ExtJS abruptly changed their license in 2008 which led to some revolt. A couple of weeks ago ExtJS renamed themselves to Sencha and also brought in the RaphaelJS SVG framework and a touch framework.<div> <br></div><div>Many of the subscribers on this mailing list have more of a background focusing on Smalltalk and Squeak than with web development. So I do think it's beneficial that we increase awareness and discuss what already exists out there in web toolkit land.</div> <div><br></div><div>Philip<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Steve Wart <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:steve@wart.ca">steve@wart.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> Licensing looks complicated, but it seems they've specifically tried to make it compatible with non-GPL projects. Is BSD the same as MIT?<div><br></div><div>But then I'm confused about the $219 developer license.<br> <div><br></div><div>Should be fun to play with though. There's also <a href="http://www.phonegap.com/" target="_blank">http://www.phonegap.com/</a> which is not a UI framework, but they provide a Javascript API to some of the more proprietary device features (e.g. camera and accelerometer) -- it's for local deployment, not web-based, but it's just serving up local resources from your device.</div> <div><br></div><div>One nice thing about these guys is they provide simulators for a variety of mobile devices. The simulator code is also open-source.</div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"> On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Dan Ingalls <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:DanHHIngalls@gmail.com" target="_blank">DanHHIngalls@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Folks -<br> <br> Check this out. Very close to an HTML app store.<br> <br> <a href="http://www.sencha.com" target="_blank">http://www.sencha.com</a><br> <br> Could be fun to Lively Up this one ;-)<br> <br> - D<br> _______________________________________________<br> lively-kernel mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:lively-kernel@hpi.uni-potsdam.de" target="_blank">lively-kernel@hpi.uni-potsdam.de</a><br> <a href="http://lists.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/listinfo/lively-kernel" target="_blank">http://lists.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/listinfo/lively-kernel</a><br> </blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div> <br>_______________________________________________<br> lively-kernel mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:lively-kernel@hpi.uni-potsdam.de">lively-kernel@hpi.uni-potsdam.de</a><br> <a href="http://lists.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/listinfo/lively-kernel" target="_blank">http://lists.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/listinfo/lively-kernel</a><br> <br></blockquote></div><br></div>