The only thing I learned from this is that you and I are both cocky. :-) That's a good thing. It might be better to find someone else to do it to help create new mockups. Will one if the other 98 people on this list please recreate the second drawing and provide feedback to this list? Or you can create a new drawing. <a href="https://docs.google.com/drawings/edit?id=1N6uJKwK5ECQYkkJSK2jfB0LSbtWdebqs4mRKgSXHR8U&hl=en" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/drawings/edit?id=1N6uJKwK5ECQYkkJSK2jfB0LSbtWdebqs4mRKgSXHR8U&hl=en</a> Thanks, Philip <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 6:09 AM, Jens Lincke <<a href="mailto:jens.lincke@hpi.uni-potsdam.de">jens.lincke@hpi.uni-potsdam.de</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Hi, Phil here it is, without coding and without doits..... <a href="http://www.lively-kernel.org/repository/lively-wiki/mockups/SystemBrowser.xhtml" target="_blank">http://www.lively-kernel.org/repository/lively-wiki/mockups/SystemBrowser.xhtml</a> I only used: Rectangles, Text, the Yellow Star (for the black triangles...) and the Clock (for the clock ;-) ). Best, Jens Am 02.07.10 02:57, schrieb Philip Weaver: <div><div></div><div class="h5"><blockquote type="cite">Lively Community, <a href="http://www.lively-kernel.org/repository/lively-wiki/sandbox/" target="_blank">Please recreate</a> one or both of these drawings in the Lively Wiki with zero coding and without doits. Please provide feedback to this list. <a href="https://docs.google.com/drawings/edit?id=1Vd3ZunYfh9_hP7DkYU1Gz6U6Aq7emgYBfk3lYVaEiBw&hl=en" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/drawings/edit?id=1Vd3ZunYfh9_hP7DkYU1Gz6U6Aq7emgYBfk3lYVaEiBw&hl=en</a> <a href="https://docs.google.com/drawings/edit?id=1N6uJKwK5ECQYkkJSK2jfB0LSbtWdebqs4mRKgSXHR8U&hl=en" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/drawings/edit?id=1N6uJKwK5ECQYkkJSK2jfB0LSbtWdebqs4mRKgSXHR8U&hl=en</a> If the wiki is down it should be back online around 8am CEST at the latest. More inline below... On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 4:54 AM, Jens Lincke <<a href="mailto:jens.lincke@hpi.uni-potsdam.de" target="_blank">jens.lincke@hpi.uni-potsdam.de</a>> wrote: <div class="gmail_quote"> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Dear list, a while ago we tried to encourage some Lively Wiki editing by providing some user directories: <a href="http://www.lively-kernel.org/repository/lively-wiki/CreateUserDirectory.xhtml" target="_blank">http://www.lively-kernel.org/repository/lively-wiki/CreateUserDirectory.xhtml</a> several people created directories but failed to edit pages or create content. </blockquote> <div> :-) My directory was created by HPI with content which I created last year. Danke. When I developed widgets and demos for Lively last summer, I was using a brand new MacBook Pro. I won't explain now - but my current hardware is inadequate. I can't run Lively well and perhaps this is one reason why I recently used Google Drawings (for the record). If no one is exploring any degree of funding to help propel this project or derivatives then that is a great tragedy. </div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">One exception is mzimmerm, who created <a href="http://www.lively-kernel.org/repository/lively-wiki/users/mzimmerm/BlackLineDemoLivelyKernel.xhtml" target="_blank">http://www.lively-kernel.org/repository/lively-wiki/users/mzimmerm/BlackLineDemoLivelyKernel.xhtml</a> </blockquote> <div> Superstar! </div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">So I decided perhaps we should try it in a second round. I prepared some pages where you could try yourself out. <a href="http://www.lively-kernel.org/repository/lively-wiki/sandbox/sandbox.xhtml" target="_blank">http://www.lively-kernel.org/repository/lively-wiki/sandbox/sandbox.xhtml</a> <a href="http://www.lively-kernel.org/repository/lively-wiki/sandbox/sandbox_01.xhtml" target="_blank">http://www.lively-kernel.org/repository/lively-wiki/sandbox/sandbox_01.xhtml</a> <a href="http://www.lively-kernel.org/repository/lively-wiki/sandbox/sandbox_02.xhtml" target="_blank">http://www.lively-kernel.org/repository/lively-wiki/sandbox/sandbox_02.xhtml</a> <a href="http://www.lively-kernel.org/repository/lively-wiki/sandbox/sandbox_03.xhtml" target="_blank">http://www.lively-kernel.org/repository/lively-wiki/sandbox/sandbox_03.xhtml</a> (Please use Safari, Chrome, or WebKit since saving pages is currently broken in Firefox and Opera) Best, Jens _______________________________________________ lively-kernel mailing list <a href="mailto:lively-kernel@hpi.uni-potsdam.de" target="_blank">lively-kernel@hpi.uni-potsdam.de</a> <a href="http://lists.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/listinfo/lively-kernel" target="_blank">http://lists.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/listinfo/lively-kernel</a> </blockquote> </div> </blockquote> </div></div></div> _______________________________________________ lively-kernel mailing list <a href="mailto:lively-kernel@hpi.uni-potsdam.de">lively-kernel@hpi.uni-potsdam.de</a> <a href="http://lists.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/listinfo/lively-kernel" target="_blank">http://lists.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/listinfo/lively-kernel</a> </blockquote></div>