<a href="http://www.hp-ventures.com/">http://www.hp-ventures.com/</a> <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Philip Weaver <<a href="mailto:philmaker@gmail.com">philmaker@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Jens and Robert, You two need to lead. Everything. Do not follow anyone. You are currently in an academic environment. Few are using the wiki. Refuse to code. Draw instead. Grow the mailing list. Find funding. I know you are both already cheerleaders but something needs to change. Sencha brought in 14 millions dollars last week. Everyone ought to be angry. They are exploring touch and brought in an SVG framework. You need to take charge. Of everything. Don't ask for permission. Philip </blockquote></div>