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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Hi Dan,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>great to hear that you have interest </FONT><FONT
size=2 face=Arial>in </FONT><FONT size=2 face=Arial>WebGL as well.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I'm not directly involved in the Lively3D effort
myself.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Tommi has students working on this project
</FONT><FONT size=2 face=Arial>at the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>university.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>There is no dependency on Qt. The work will
be</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>fully open, although I don't think there has
been</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>any discussion about the legalities yet.
So far</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>that hasn't been necessary.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Tommi should be able to answer these
questions</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>once </FONT><FONT size=2 face=Arial>he's back from
France (SEAA conference trip).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I'll make sure the web links get fixed. We
are not</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>updating the web site very frequently, so
t</FONT><FONT size=2 face=Arial>his may </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>take a while.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Best regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>-- Antero</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=danhhingalls@gmail.com href="mailto:danhhingalls@gmail.com">Dan
Ingalls</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=antero.taivalsaari@tut.fi
href="mailto:antero.taivalsaari@tut.fi">Antero Taivalsaari</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A
title=lively-kernel@hpi.uni-potsdam.de
href="mailto:lively-kernel@hpi.uni-potsdam.de">lively-kernel@hpi.uni-potsdam.de</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, September 04, 2010 10:22
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> WebGL projects [was: Re:
[lively-kernel] Lively Kernel as plugin...]</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT><FONT
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Great to hear from you, Antero -</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>...and remarkable timing, as we were just discussing the
possibility of working with WebGL as part of an intern project this
year.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial> Is there a chance that we could
collaborate?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Is that work open and, if so, under what
license?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Is it dependent on Qt?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>What's the best way to follow the work?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>All the best</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><X-TAB>
</X-TAB>- Dan</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>PS: Could you pass along a suggestion that the <A
href="mailto:Lively@TUT">Lively@TUT</A> home page be changed from</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><X-TAB>
</X-TAB><FONT color=#9e5d13><U>...Lively Kernel</U></FONT><FONT color=#262626>
research team at Sun Microsystems Laboratories.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>to...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><X-TAB>
</X-TAB><FONT color=#9e5d13><U>...Lively Kernel</U></FONT><FONT color=#262626>
research team at the Hasso Plattner Institute.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>and that the link be changed from...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><X-TAB>
</X-TAB>http://labs.oracle.com/projects/lively/</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>to...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><X-TAB>
</X-TAB>http://www.lively-kernel.org/</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Thanks!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT size=-1 face=Arial>Somewhat related to
this topic:</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><A
href="http://livelygoes3d.blogspot.com/">http://livelygoes3d.blogspot.com/</A></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT size=2
face=Arial></FONT> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT size=-1 face=Arial>Another
comment:</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT size=-1 face=Arial>Philip Weaver
wrote:</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite">> When Lively was at Sun one of the first
implementations</BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite">> I think was not browser-based. But that
was probably in</BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite">> 2007 and Dan, Robert, or Jens can
probably better answer this.</BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT size=-1 face=Arial>That is
correct. The first version of Lively (then known as
"Flair"</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT size=-1 face=Arial>or "ScriptBrowser"
was implemented on top of the SpiderMonkey</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT size=-1 face=Arial>JavaScript VM and
ran on Windows and Nokia 770/800/810 web tablets.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT size=-1 face=Arial>There's a summary
of the ScriptBrowser work in this technical report:</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><A
href="http://research.sun.com/techrep/2008/abstract-177.html"><FONT size=-1
face=Arial>http://research.sun.com/techrep/2008/abstract-177.html</FONT></A></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT size=-1 face=Arial>This was a very
different beast compared to the Rhino-based</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT size=-1 face=Arial>(and later
SVG-based) LK implementation that was started a bit later.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT size=-1 face=Arial>--
Antero</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>