<!doctype html public "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <html><head><style type="text/css"></style><title>Re: [lively-kernel] Style</title></head><body> <div>Hi Casey -</div> <div><br></div> <div>I'm answering your query publicly because this may be confusing to several people.</div> <div><br></div> <div>Yes, Lively bypasses the need for HTML and CSS and does everything itself.</div> <div><br></div> <div>However, many possible clients use CSS as a vehicle for factoring out style metrics (window title bar color, etc) in their web content and, moreover, they expect to be able to approach things this way.</div> <div><br></div> <div>It would be pretty easy, and probably a good thing, for Lively to support this level of factored style.  Thus, just as you may set a number of preferences in localconfig.js, you might want to put your window color scheme in a CSS file.  It's not a big deal, but I think it may be worth meeting the rest of the planet half-way on this.</div> <div><br></div> <div>Much more important, though, is<b> how would you like Lively to look</b>?</div> <div><br></div> <div>Thank you for requesting clarification</div> <div><br></div> <div><x-tab>        </x-tab>- Dan</div> <div>-------------------------------------</div> <blockquote type="cite" cite>Dan,</blockquote> <blockquote type="cite" cite><br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite" cite>I'm a bit confused. There may be a piece of the puzzle I don't understand well, as I'm new to lively.</blockquote> <blockquote type="cite" cite><br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite" cite>As I understand it, lively largely bypasses HTML by rendering directly to the SVG canvas, correct? If this is the case, how would CSS help?<br> <br> On Sep 9, 2010, at 4:45 PM, Dan Ingalls <<a href="mailto:DanHHIngalls@gmail.com">DanHHIngalls@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> <blockquote type="cite" cite><b>Good People,  it's time to decorate!</b></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite" cite><br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite" cite>It has become clear to me that Lively will only be a toy to many people as long as it continues to look like geekware.  There are two things required to improve our look:   artistic sense, and a knack for CSS or similar controls.  I have neither.</blockquote> <blockquote type="cite" cite><br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite" cite>But I have friends...</blockquote> <blockquote type="cite" cite><br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite" cite>All you lurkers out there:  It's time to give Lively a few minutes of your time</blockquote> <blockquote type="cite" cite><br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite" cite><x-tab>        </x-tab>Choose one or two web pages that you love, share the links with us,</blockquote> <blockquote type="cite" cite><x-tab>        </x-tab>and say what you like about them that's relevant to Lively</blockquote> <blockquote type="cite" cite><br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite" cite><x-tab>        </x-tab>If you happen to know CSS, please send along suggestions</blockquote> <blockquote type="cite" cite><x-tab>        </x-tab>about how you would most like to see it supported.</blockquote> <blockquote type="cite" cite><br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite" cite>In the next day or two, we'll put a prototype page out in the wiki that you can redecorate with your favorite style.  That will give us a sense of what's needed to get a decent range of style and how to keep it lively.</blockquote> <blockquote type="cite" cite><br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite" cite>It may seem stupid to spend time on appearance, but it could be the most significant thing we do for support in the next couple of months.</blockquote> <blockquote type="cite" cite><br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite" cite><x-tab>        </x-tab>- Dan<br> </blockquote> <blockquote type="cite" cite>_______________________________________________<br> lively-kernel mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:lively-kernel@hpi.uni-potsdam.de" >lively-kernel@hpi.uni-potsdam.de</a><br> <a href="http://lists.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/listinfo/lively-kernel" >http://lists.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/listinfo/lively-kernel</a></blockquote > </blockquote> <div><br></div> </body> </html>