<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Hi Davide,</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for your interest in Lively. And I am sorry for your initial experiences...</div><div><br></div><div>The places you started from are pretty much outdated. Our current development happens here:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.lively-kernel.org/repository/webwerkstatt/">http://www.lively-kernel.org/repository/webwerkstatt/</a></div><div><br></div><div>we know about the problems of saving the old example page (index.XHTML) but we planed to throw that parts away, so we did not fix that.</div><div><br></div><div>You can edit in the webwerkstatt or copy pages from there as you like. For writing you have to register first:</div><a href="http://www.lively-kernel.org/trac/register">http://www.lively-kernel.org/trac/register</a><div><br></div><div>there is a good overview page missing, since we did not have time to write it or nobody asked the right questions. So perhaps try these...</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">http://www.lively-kernel.org/repository/webwerkstatt/</span>documentation/GettingStarted.xhtml<br>http://www.lively-kernel.org/repository/webwerkstatt/documentation/ScriptingTutorial.xhtml<br><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Jens</div><div><br></div><div><br>Am 25.04.2011 um 02:14 schrieb Davide Della Casa <davidedc@gmail.com>:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div><div>I found what it was: in the index.xhtml world there is a subworld called Development tools.</div><div><br></div><div>That subworld has a PanelMorph in it, with four buttons and a slider and a number of text boxes - if I delete that PanelMorph the serialization is OK.</div><div><br></div><div>I first tried to only remove all the contents of the PanelMorph - but that didn't solve the serialization problem.</div><div><br></div><div>So I thought that maybe PanelMorphs have a serialization problem, but if I create a PanelMorph from scratch it works fine...</div><div><br></div><div>So I don't know if it helps, but I hope it helps.</div><div><br></div><div><div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Davide Della Casa</div></div><div><br></div>On 25 Apr 2011, at 00:09, Davide Della Casa wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi All,</div><div><br></div><div>LK is an amazing project and after some toying around on the website I just installed it locally on my mac (default configuration on OSX version i.e. 10.6.7 (latest version at time of writing)).</div><div><br></div><div>I had a couple of problems that I managed to resolve, and one problem still standing when saving worlds.</div><div><br></div><div> - The video at <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb3a70C15Sw">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb3a70C15Sw</a> seems to be slightly out of date and following those directions didn't seem to work.</div><div> - So, I installed LK on the regular "Sites" directory - which is the default place where the web server fetches content - that works OK.</div><div> - Then I had a problem in that the localconfig file is not included in the trunk (this is something that was spotted by Philip Weaver over two years ago <a href="http://forum.world.st/General-Instructions-for-Lively-Server-Setup-tt3033897.html#a3033900%23none">http://forum.world.st/General-Instructions-for-Lively-Server-Setup-tt3033897.html#a3033900#none</a> ) - but I copied a version from here <a href="http://www.lively-kernel.org/trac/browser/branches/interns/source/kernel/localconfig.js?rev=1340&order=name">http://www.lively-kernel.org/trac/browser/branches/interns/source/kernel/localconfig.js?rev=1340&order=name</a> .</div><div> - Also the " nocursor.cur " file is missing, but I found a blank cursor file from here and plugged that one in <a href="http://pc.autons.net/stuff/blanks/">http://pc.autons.net/stuff/blanks/</a> so that's ok too.</div><div><br></div><div>After these initial troubles I got the worlds to open and work OK but... while saving a world (e.g. just the plain index.xhtml world), I get these errors in the console:</div><div> - problems to parse <a href="http://localhost/lively/index.xhtml">http://localhost/lively/index.xhtml</a></div><div> - alert: Cannot serialize model stuff of type lively.data.DOMNodeRecord</div><div><br></div><div>The world file *is* successfully created (so I believe this means that the WebDav worked), but when I load it I get a green/red world of death saying:</div><div><br></div><div>ALERT: Cannot serialize old model object: {"_livelyDataWrapperId_":"172:anonymous_22","B1Value$observers":[{"__isSmartRef__":true,"id":883},{"__isSmartRef__":true,"id":884}],"B2Value$observers":[{"__isSmartRef__":true,"id":1120},{"__isSmartRef__":true,"id":1121}],"List$observers":[{"__isSmartRef__":true,"id":1122},{"__isSmartRef__":true,"id":1123}],"ListItem$observers":[{"__isSmartRef__":true,"id":1122},{"__isSmartRef__":true,"id":1123}],"Text$observers":[{"__isSmartRef__":true,"id":1124},{"__isSmartRef__":true,"id":1125},{"__isSmartRef__":true,"id":1126}],"TextSel$observers":[{"__isSmartRef__":true,"id":1127}],"PrintValue$observers":[{"__isSmartRef__":true,"id":1128},{"__isSmartRef__":true,"id":1129}],"SliderValue$observers":[{"__isSmartRef__":true,"id":1130},{"__isSmartRef__":true,"id":1131}],"SliderRange$observers":[{"__isSmartRef__":true,"id":1132},{"__isSmartRef__":true,"id":1131}],"__SourceModuleName__":"Global.anonymous_module_5","__rawNodeInfo__":{"tagName":"record","namespaceURI":"<a href="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg">http://www.w3.org/2000/svg</a>","attributes":[{"key":"id","value":"172:anonymous_22","namespaceURI":null}]},"definition":"{\"Text\":{},\"TextSel\":{},\"List\":{},\"ListItem\":{},\"PrintValue\":{},\"B1Value\":{},\"B2Value\":{},\"SliderValue\":{},\"SliderRange\":{}}","isInstanceOfAnonymousClass":true}</div><div><br></div><div>Error while loading anonymous_module_3: Error: delegate [object Object] does not implement setTextSel</div><div><br></div><div>Any hints?</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Davide Della Casa</div><div><a href="http://www.sketchpatch.net/">http://www.sketchpatch.net</a></div></blockquote></div><br></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>lively-kernel mailing list</span><br><span>lively-kernel@hpi.uni-potsdam.de</span><br><span>http://lists.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/listinfo/lively-kernel</span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>