[General] Still Lively

Philip Weaver philmaker at gmail.com
Fri Oct 30 03:01:00 CET 2009

Those are some awesome features and achievements! Gradients did need some
love and I'm glad they are getting it!

Some comments inline below...

On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Dan Ingalls <Dan.Ingalls at sun.com> wrote:
> *Notable steps forward in 0.9:*
>         We now have a way to embed (multiple) Lively Kernel worlds
>         in normal HTML, thus opening the possibility of LK
>         serving as an entire Dojo-like widget and viewing frameworlk
>         Try, for example...
>         http://research.sun.com/projects/lively/divChallenge.html
I am more in favor of the opposite extreme - using Lively to display XML or
HTML document content without CSS per se - instead using Lively stylesheets
or handlers. For the Lively wiki to be more usable for documentation and
such Lively needs enhancements in the area of layout managers and flowing
connected page layouts within vertically scrollable worlds - like a typical
web page. Just want to mention this as being highly desirable to me but I
know it's a pretty significant effort. Markup language support within Lively
though is not as important though as page and section layout management in
general in Lively - in my opinion. In a nutshell, Lively needs page layout
support like Apple Pages or Adobe Pagemaker would provide. Priority: I'd say
below wiki functionality but above visualizations and 3D support.

See the comments on this article for more info and reasoning. Some of the
comments attached to this article describe the separation of rendering
engines from the browser:

> We (mostly Robert so far) are working on a project called Chameleon.  We
> hope to share it very soon and get others involved.

Exciting! That's what I have to say about that! Woot!

> Have fun, and don't forget to write!
>         - Dan
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