[lively-kernel] How to make seaside serve LK?

Robert Krahn robert.krahn at student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de
Sat Jun 26 18:23:03 CEST 2010

Hi, Lawson --

If you only want to process certain requests with Seaside it is not necessary to serve the LK files with it because Apache is much better suited doing this.

A while ago we created a simple chat app: http://lively-kernel.org/repository/webwerkstatt/BWINF/chat-prototype.xhtml

Lively is still run by Apache but under http://lively-kernel.org/web-collab-squeak we process POST requests to implement the chat's login/logout/broadcasting logic. The URL is transformed by a Apache proxy rule so that it reaches the Squeak server ("ProxyPass /web-collab-squeak http://localhost:8080"). By the way, in Squeak we didn't use Seaside but the good old KomHttpServer (Andreas Raab's WebClient framework would now probably be a good alternative) since Seaside would be overkill for such a simple task.


On Jun 26, 2010, at 1:57 PM, Lawson English wrote:

> On 6/26/10 3:47 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
>> On 26.06.2010, at 09:54, Lawson English wrote:
>>> The title says it all. It seems perfectly doable on its face, but I'm
>>> not sure how to get started.
>> From the server's point of view, LK is just a bunch of files. They get downloaded when running LK, and uploaded when saving. You can use Seaside to serve them, sure, but it's overkill.
> Thanks. I was pretty sure that was the case, but not positive. The idea 
> (for now) is to create a standalone, one-click seaside server with LK 
> interface that I can use to experiment with Second Life interfacing 
> without having to do much by way of widget creation. The scriptali.us 
> controls often seem  not to work as I'd like, and I am hoping that 
> localhost-served LK will provide an easy way to create control panels 
> on-the-fly.
>> You should figure out first what you want the Seaside app to do. For regular LK, all the logic is performed client-side. You do not need complex server-side logic, which is what Seaside is good at. A "dumb" server is totally sufficient.
> Sure, but the logic would come from the messages passed back to the 
> server, as always.
>> If you want to learn how to serve files using Seaside, that has nothing to do with LK itself. So please ask on the Seaside mailing list, not here.
> Thanks for your response.
> Lawson
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