[lively-kernel] Error reporting

Robert Krahn robert.krahn at gmail.com
Wed Feb 29 15:51:14 CET 2012


Hi, Dan --

Yes, we discussed that before and I agree, for using applications written in Lively this is not desirable. However, when developing this proofed to be *very* useful. It can be really annoying to not notice errors during development and then maybe publish something that is not working correctly.

One solution is to introduce a proper per-user preferences. We introduced per user config modules a while ago but they are not really being used (because they are not really documented…). But based on them we could easily implement preferences that could then also be accessed/modified using UI/Parts inside Lively. This would solve the show-or-show-not error problem, I guess.

Best,
Robert


On Feb 29, 2012, at 3:31 AM, Dan Ingalls wrote:

> Hi Ted, Robert, Jens and all -
> 
> I too am bothered by the completely disruptive blood red text that, as often as not, is showing me someone else's problem.  It sure doesn't play well in demos.
> 
> In LK1 we had a very nice feature which was a transcript window that showed the console messages.  This allowed you to read the messages as long as you wish, let you see them without having to open browser tools and change windows, let you easily cut/paste/eval and especially do a -find- operation on any of the text, all almost for free (ie, a tiny amount of code).  This, and an LK debugger (and changeSets ;-) would catapult us to a higher level of productivity.
> 
>  - Dan
> ---------------
> On Feb 28, 2012, at 4:28 PM, Robert Krahn wrote:
> 
>> Hi, Ted --
>> 
>> when you click on error messages they will stay and every error message is also printed to the browser console.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Robert
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 29, 2012, at 1:11 AM, Ted Kaehler wrote:
>> 
>>> Folks,
>>> 	I like the fact that I can ignore most errors and keep 
>>> working.  However, the red scrolling list of errors is not helping 
>>> me.  It disappears before I have a chance to read it.
>>> 
>>> How about a button that lets me keep the error window?
>>> 
>>> Or, a button that opens the browser Javascript Console (and makes it 
>>> be the minimum size at the bottom)?
>>> 
>>> --Ted.
>>> 
>>> -- 
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