Robert, This is excellent!!! What great summary of what a person needs to know about Lively. Very well orgainzed and clear. --Ted. -- Ted Kaehler If you're not hungry enough to eat an apple, then you're not hungry. If you are that hungry, then do eat an apple. -- paraphrasing Michael Pollan. http://www.vpri.org/html/team_bios/kaehler.html