[lively-kernel] Local installation of Lively Core from Github: some notes, questions, and errors

Jens Lincke jens.lincke at hpi.uni-potsdam.de
Tue Feb 28 11:21:35 CET 2012

Hi, Milan -

I did a local Lively Setup the following way. I made some notes, they are Mac specific and might miss some steps.
My basic idea was to have two installations: one clean from git with the code and one in the webwerkstatt wiki style for 
playing around with parts and pages. 

How to install lively locally on my Mac:

- check out LivelyKernel from github:

cd  /Library/WebServer/
git clone https://github.com/rksm/LivelyKernel.git 

- copy https://github.com/rksm/LivelyKernel/blob/master/apache_config/lk_osx.conf 
into /etc/apache2/other/

- enable your local web server in the Mac system preferences

- or if you already have, restart apache:

sudo apachectl restart

- /Library/WebServer/Documents/LivelyKernel/

This will give you a bare installaltion of Lively without history and without any Tool Parts. 

How to setup a LivelyWiki

- For Lively Wiki functionality as in WebWerkstatt we need apache to serve us an svn repository.
So we have to create one:

sudo mkdir /Library/WebServer/repositories
sudo svnadmin create  /Library/WebServer/repositories/LivelyWiki

- Allow the webserver to read and write the repositories:

sudo chown -R _www:_www  /Library/WebServer/repositories/LivelyWiki

- add /etc/apache2/other/livelywiki_osx.conf:

<IfModule !dav_module>
        LoadModule dav_module libexec/apache2/mod_dav.so

<IfModule !dav_svn_module>
        LoadModule dav_svn_module libexec/apache2/mod_dav_svn.so

Redirect /LivelyWiki/core/ /LivelyKernel/core/

# change this to wherever your svn repo is
<Location /LivelyWiki>
    DAV svn
    SVNPath /Library/WebServer/repositories/LivelyWiki
    SVNAutoVersioning on  
    ModMimeUsePathInfo on
    Order Deny,Allow 
    Allow from All    
    SetOutputFilter DEFLATE  
    DavDepthInfinity on  


This gives you two repositories: 

a) http://localhost/LivelyKernel/ -> WebDAV served plain git 
b) http://localhost/LivelyWiki/ -> SVN DAV Lively wiki with auto commit history

if we copy a blank.xhtml from (a) into (b)i we can start working in (b) because all the .js files are loaded from  (a)

I then bootstrapped the parts using a part from WebWerkstatt:

        var oldRootPath = Config.rootPath
        try {
            Config.rootPath = 'http://lively-kernel.org/repository/webwerkstatt/'
            this.openPartItem("BootstrapParts", "PartsBin/Tools")
        } finally {
            Config.rootPath = oldRootPath

I tried to figure out a way how I can upload parts / changes made on my localhost machine to webwerkstatt using the proxy,
but I failed because digest authentication can not be proxied with our URL rewriting approach and I will have to use node.js for this.


Am 28.02.2012 um 06:18 schrieb Milan Zimmermann:

> Hi:
> This weekend I set to install Lively Core from Github on"localhost" ,
> using the instructions on Github, with some tinkering in addition.
> Short summary is that the resulting install does sort of work, I can
> drag out PartsBin, from there drag out parts etc. There are however
> quite a few errors when using it (more below).
> A brief summary of my installation steps on localhost (Opensuse 12.1
> although that is likely not relevant):
> --------------------------------------
> 	- git clone as instructed ~/LivelyKernel
> 	- npm install
> 	- make install_partsbin (at the end of this step I have an
> combination of .git and .svn client directories) in ~/LivelyKernel)
> 	- copied ~/LivelyKernel under Apache /srv/www/htdocs
> 	- configured Apache for WebDAV to /srv/www/htdocs/LivelyKernel
> 	- pointed to
> 	- the world shows and somewhat works, but  not as good as the online
> lively-kernel.org :)
> I have some questions (realizing most are related to WebDAV/Git) and errors:
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> If anyone could help or comment that would be great - thanks
> 	1) From my previous installation of Lively2, I thought WebDAV
> requires an actual SVN repository (svnadmin create repo) to work with
> Lively2, but this time the lk.conf seem to indicate it can simply
> contain the combination of the .git and .svn directories created
> above.  Is that how it is supposed to be configured for webDAV /
> Lively to work? Also, is the the combination of .git and .svn client
> files an issue, and I wonder which parts of the ~/LivelyKernel are
> used by Lively for saving and changes...
> 	2) How does webwerkstatt create the login (later used to authorize to
> save worlds), and is there an equivalent way to set it up for the
> localhost install?
> 	3) did someone reading this tried to install core to share notes
> Errors:
> -----------
> 	1) Error on dragging out the cloud from PartsBin (similar errors in
> other situations):
> Error when trying to update
> AttributeConnection(PartsItem(Cloud,PartsSpace(PartsBin/Basic/)).loadedMetaInfo
> --> <lively.morphic.Box#E5AB3... -
> PartsBinBrowser>.setMetaInfoOfSelectedItem) with value
> MetaInfo(PartsBin/Basic/Cloud):
> TypeError: Object Thu Nov 03 2011 19:13:58 GMT-0400 (EDT) has no method 'format'
> TypeError: Object Thu Nov 03 2011 19:13:58 GMT-0400 (EDT) has no method 'format'
>    at eval at <anonymous>
> (
>    at Array.map (native)
>    at Box.commitLogString (eval at <anonymous>
> (
>    at Box.setMetaInfoOfSelectedItem (eval at <anonymous>
> (
>    at
>    at AttributeConnection.update
> (
>    at PartItem.loadedMetaInfo
> (
>    at
>    at AttributeConnection.updater (eval at <anonymous>
> (
>    at AttributeConnection.update
> (
> 	2) Cannot Save at all / Error on saving blank.xhtml as blank2.xhtml:
> 	"directory does not exist! Create it?"
> 	on OK:
> 	Problem saving
> #<NetRequestStatus{PUT,,403}>
> Thanks
> milan
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