[lively-kernel] Lively Kernel as plugin without requiring afull webbrowser?

[Antero Taivalsaari]

Somewhat related to this topic:

http://livelygoes3d.blogspot.com/

Another comment:

Philip Weaver wrote:
> When Lively was at Sun one of the first implementations
> I think was not browser-based. But that was probably in
> 2007 and Dan, Robert, or Jens can probably better answer this. 

That is correct.  The first version of Lively (then known as "Flair"
or "ScriptBrowser" was implemented on top of the SpiderMonkey
JavaScript VM and ran on Windows and Nokia 770/800/810 web tablets.
There's a summary of the ScriptBrowser work in this technical report:

http://research.sun.com/techrep/2008/abstract-177.html

This was a very different beast compared to the Rhino-based
(and later SVG-based) LK implementation that was started a bit later.

-- Antero

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Darius Clarke 
  To: lenglish5 at cox.net 
  Cc: lively-kernel at hpi.uni-potsdam.de 
  Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 12:56 AM
  Subject: Re: [lively-kernel] Lively Kernel as plugin without requiring afull webbrowser?


  Hi Lawson, 


  Wouldn't that describe Google's O3D effort?
  But they ditched the plug-in earlier this year for a pure JS to Web Browser solution, now relying on WebGL and Canvas.


  http://code.google.com/apis/o3d/ 


  - Darius


  On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Lawson English <lenglish5 at cox.net> wrote:

     How difficult would it be to divorce LK from the webbrowser? If some
    hypothetical LK plugin were given a handle to a buffer of some kind, how
    much work would it take to make LK a plugin without dragging all of html
    with it?


    The reason why I ask is that LK would make a great game engine GUI in
    many contexts.


    Lawson
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